Translation of Trac to Russian/Русский [ru_RU]

[asmodai@…]

This ticket should be used to coordinate the translation to Russian/Русский. See also TracTermsRu.

[anonymous]

Помочь может чем?

[jruigrok]

As soon as a first version is committed I would need a native speaker to check the file and fix all my mistakes and fill in more information.

[jruigrok]

A first version has been committed as source:sandbox/i18n/trac/locale/ru_RU/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po

[sergeych <sergeych@…>]

I've started the translation. 1/3 is ready, gonna finish it within the next week. How can I see the result? Sometimes I can't translate phrase fragment without seeing the while thing. Instructions needed.

When I've tried to attach the path to this page, got the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 406, in dispatch_request
    dispatcher.dispatch(req)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 237, in dispatch
    resp = chosen_handler.process_request(req)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/attachment.py", line 361, in process_request
    self._do_save(req, attachment)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/attachment.py", line 477, in _do_save
    for field, message in manipulator.validate_attachment(req, attachment):
  File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/tracspamfilter/adapters.py", line 135, in validate_attachment
  File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/tracspamfilter/api.py", line 133, in test
  File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/tracspamfilter/model.py", line 135, in insert
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/db/util.py", line 50, in execute
    return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/db/util.py", line 50, in execute
    return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
ProgrammingError: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block

Will try later.

[sergeych <sergeych@…>]

The translation is ready, but I can't attch it because of #5848 (just reported it). Please contact me at sergeych@… so I could send it using email, etc.

[cyberpunk@…]

Replying to sergeych <sergeych@tancher.com>:

The translation is ready, but I can't attch it because of #5848 (just reported it). Please contact me at sergeych@… so I could send it using email, etc.

Can you upload it to any of free file hosting systems like rapidshare.com, and post link here?

[sergeych <sergeych@…>]

http://dev.tancher.ru/messages_ru_ru.txt

[jruigrok]

I already committed part of your patch, but that's the part that applied cleanly. Another part of your patch failed to apply cleanly. I will rework that by hand.

[sergeych <sergeych@…>]

In the case I used not oldest revision, I've updated it to 6017 and made new pacth:

http://dev.tancher.ru/patch_from_6017.txt

[jruigrok]

Oh cool, you beat me to it. I have committed it in r6018.

[jruigrok]

By the way, got a full name that I could use for the THANKS file? (And depending on if you want to be the ru_RU maintainer you might want to update the messages.po header and replace my details with yours.)

[sergeych <sergeych@…>]

Full name: Sergey S. Chernov. Yes, I'd like to maintain ru_RU; I'm using te Trac alot and love it (and python too). Is there anything else I should do to this translation?

[cyberpunk@…]

Is there any step by step instructions on how to patch existing English trac 0.10.3.1 installation to Russian?

[jruigrok]

This ticket is for development only for working towards the next version 0.12 where this will be integrated. Your question would be better asked on the mailinglist.

[jruigrok]

Sergey,

just make sure you provide a patch for the header of the .po which says you are the Last Translator and such details.

[havator@…]

Hello!

Tell me,please is translation finished?

Sergey Kravtsov

[jruigrok]

Until 0.12 is frozen for release the translation will need to be checked and updated constantly. But right now a lot of text has been translated and could be used for test deployments in Russian, yes. But as always: it's development code.

[alexey.lustin <lustin@…>]

how will be build translate the standart WikiPage (for example WikiFormatting ?

for our user i've translate some WikiPage? to Russian, may be it will be needed to somebody?

with best regards, Alexey A. Lustin (Lipetsk, Russia)

[jruigrok]

Wiki pages depends on #1513. At the moment this is not scheduled for 0.12.

[anonymous]

patch_from_6958.txt

[jruigrok]

Committed in r6960. Thanks.

Next time, please attach them to the ticket.

[antonbatenev@…]

Replying to jruigrok:

Next time, please attach them to the ticket.

Oops, sorry.

So, I looked translation more carefully - it is ugly ;) Some words translated literary, but not used in IT community.

Here some changes which make translation and UI-view slightly better (lowercase also looks better). Step by step I'll send patches for full translation.

[antonbatenev@…]

I can not attach patch :(

Trac sad: "ProgrammingError?: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block"

[jruigrok]

They're currently investigating this, it's partially due to anti-spam measures, but I guess it doesn't like translation files. Will let you know as soon as it is fixed, sorry for the delay.

[anonymous]

Wow! GZIP file attached successfully!

[jruigrok]

Thanks for the file Anton, I am a bit confused though. In a lot of cases your have lowercased the first word of partial sentences, is this common for Russian where it concerns websites? I mean, I know a lot of languages do not follow English' use of Studly Caps (like my own language), but quite often they do capitalize the first letter of a partial sentence.

Furthermore you replaced both Смотреть Карточки (View Tickets) and Имеющиеся отчёты (Available Reports) with just отчеты, this seems a bit of a overly enthusiastic simplification?

Some others do seem to capture the spirit of the terms better.

I'd like to hear from some fellow Russian speakers what they think.

[DyachenkoA@…]

More Russian translation (Patch to rev 6982)

[DyachenkoA@…]

I think that lowercase is not good idea.

[dmitriy.lopatko@…]

Replying to DyachenkoA@gmail.ru:

I think that lowercase is not good idea.

+1 on this

[jruigrok]

lvk: Applied in r7141. Spasibo.

[alexander.sigachov@…]

translation update

[alexey.lustin <lustin@…>]

вопрос ко всем рускоязычным пользователям

может имеет смысл немного автоматизировать процесс локализации

например svn репозиторий проекта как пример можно посмотреть здесь
http://code.google.com/p/ru-trac-translation/

тогда обсуждение по терминам и вообще использования Trac
для начала можно осуществить в группах Гугла например http://code.google.com/p/ru-trac-translation/

PS на бразды правление не претендую - просто очень хочется подстегнуть вопросы локализации

[alexey.lustin <lustin@…>]

some comment (eng) I think lack of full i18n support is a factor which stop evolution of Trac (rus) Я думаю что отсутствие полной локализации тормозит развитие Trac

[alexey.lustin <lustin@…>]

gziped patch to translation on revission 7455 (710 strings, 54 fuzzy, 0 errors, 0 untranslate)

[kossmak@…]

Добавил перевод в статью TranslationRu/TracWiki (version 21). Может быть удалить абзац Russian words, если никому не нужен? Также добавил перевод TranslationRu/WikiNewPageRu, TranslationRu/WikiFormattingRu. По мере возможности, постараюсь еще перевести что-нибудь из wiki руководства.

I add translation on page TranslationRu/TracWiki (version 21). Can be delete block Russian words unless nobody needs? Has also added translation TranslationRu/WikiNewPageRu, TranslationRu/WikiFormattingRu.